VTEC Just Kicked In, Yo.

[Dr_Strangelove]

Found this on the "Just Rolled Into the Shop" subreddit. Gentlemen... A NEW CONTENDER ARRIVES! It appears Honda K engines cause a spontaneous infection of emoji stickers... interesting.

Discuss.

[B3DAWG]

Not my cup of tea. I'm sure Hoovie will try to put one in another Porsche and turn up full ricer mode, but there are some things beautiful that should be well enough left alone. There is something great about the flat 6 motor and it seems we all can learn from Hoovie's Apolo 911 experience with his LS swap. Money pit! I'm sure the VTEC conversion is a little cheaper? At least I'd hope!

But with Porsche bringing the price of M96 replacement blocks down to practicality, I would rather put the real deal back in the car even though it doesn't measure up to today's sports car horsepower. But why is "Mine is bigger than yours" been such a poison to the performance car world?

For me, HP has never been the deciding factor - it's what drives sales, but it's just like all the sales gimmicks, they're just like the curl on a pig's tail, it doesn't add anymore pork to the pig!... (e.g. 4K Curved 240 Hz refresh rate OLED TVs or 200 MPH leaf blowers)

[B3DAWG]

Of all the LS swap threads I've read, I've never seen anyone spend much time talking about the balancing issues when putting a different motor like the Corvette V8 in the 911. Seems to me, one of the beauties of the Flat 6 motor is that it's design allows the motor to be mounted extremely close to the ground which promotes a low center of gravity.

Therefore, wouldn't these LS and VTech type motors not have the same center of gravity and thus affect the car's balance? Especially when having to cut the frame of the car to make them fit, wouldn't there be some real serious issues with the control of the car at high speeds?

[32wildbilly]

Not my cup of tea. I'm sure Hoovie will try to put one in another Porsche and turn up full ricer mode, but there are some things beautiful that should be well enough left alone. There is something great about the flat 6 motor and it seems we all can learn from Hoovie's Apolo 911 experience with his LS swap. Money pit! I'm sure the VTEC conversion is a little cheaper? At least I'd hope!

But with Porsche bringing the price of M96 replacement blocks down to practicality, I would rather put the real deal back in the car even though it doesn't measure up to today's sports car horsepower. But why is "Mine is bigger than yours" been such a poison to the performance car world?

For me, HP has never been the deciding factor - it's what drives sales, but it's just like all the sales gimmicks, they're just like the curl on a pig's tail, it doesn't add anymore pork to the pig!... (e.g. 4K Curved 240 Hz refresh rate OLED TVs or 200 MPH leaf blowers)

This is the second time I have read about the m96 blocks...tell me more. On topic: Even though our cars are not rare nor super expensive I think leave the engine it came with in and replace in-kind as necessary. I like the one guy's signature describing horsepower, torque, etc and how it relates to hitting the wall. Now on the other hand when/if the zcar blows up there is a company out east that shoe horns in a V8 for a reasonable price, so...

[B3DAWG]

Not my cup of tea. I'm sure Hoovie will try to put one in another Porsche and turn up full ricer mode, but there are some things beautiful that should be well enough left alone. There is something great about the flat 6 motor and it seems we all can learn from Hoovie's Apolo 911 experience with his LS swap. Money pit! I'm sure the VTEC conversion is a little cheaper? At least I'd hope!

But with Porsche bringing the price of M96 replacement blocks down to practicality, I would rather put the real deal back in the car even though it doesn't measure up to today's sports car horsepower. But why is "Mine is bigger than yours" been such a poison to the performance car world?

For me, HP has never been the deciding factor - it's what drives sales, but it's just like all the sales gimmicks, they're just like the curl on a pig's tail, it doesn't add anymore pork to the pig!... (e.g. 4K Curved 240 Hz refresh rate OLED TVs or 200 MPH leaf blowers)

This is the second time I have read about the m96 blocks...tell me more. On topic: Even though our cars are not rare nor super expensive I think leave the engine it came with in and replace in-kind as necessary. I like the one guy's signature describing horsepower, torque, etc and how it relates to hitting the wall. Now on the other hand when/if the zcar blows up there is a company out east that shoe horns in a V8 for a reasonable price, so...

Don't quote me on this, but I was at Porsche having my car checked out and keys made. The guy at Porsche said that the 996 is officially in "classic status" and will start to receive special treatment. I'm not sure what "special" means... hopefully not like mental disabilities or something. But I see you can get M96 short blocks for as low as $6,000. (core charge applies) Complete engines are still in the $23,000 range. I guess it depends how you want it dressed out. I'm no expert on this, but this may be some good news for 996 owners.

[B3DAWG]

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[FRUNKenstein]

Hmm, did Porsche just deliver a swift kick to Jake's nards? Did the one year wait and $20k+ rebuild just vanish? Am I now back in the market for another Mk I aerokit?

[5chn3ll]

Good God. That's the automotive analog of Frankenstein's monster.

On the plus side, that Porsche owner has a whole world of fart cans to choose from.

[Kalashnikov]

Vtec crew checking in!

I see absolutely see nothing wrong with K swap or J32a2 swap in 996. Motor in my acura is worlds ahead of m96 in reliability aspect, and it sounds amazing at full tilt, factual statement..... Look up how many j32s are in 300k mile range with zero work. J32a2 with headers and Cai makes 300 crank hp(yeah, headers are that restrictive from the factory) , which is about what m96 motors make per liter. For those unfamiliar with J32a2 motor, you can Google it and learn more. Motor has dual stage intake manifold and very aggressive Vtec crossover at 5k rpm. In stock manual cl-s cars, 0-60 under 6 and quarter in low 14 is 100% doable. Mind you, it is a fwd car that's 500lb heavier than 996.

[5chn3ll]

Not knocking imports...an EcoBoost would be just as off-putting. The M96 may be a turd, but it's the correct turd.