Help with potential purchase

User avatar
FRUNKenstein
OG (First 100 Outposters!)
Posts: 1156
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:02 pm
Location: Overland Park, KS
Contact:

Re: Help with potential purchase

Post by FRUNKenstein » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:58 am

In terms of pricing, the 2001 models would be at the bottom, then 2002-2004 slightly higher, then 2005, then 2005 "S" models. But really, the 2001 models model year is maybe a 1 or 2 percent drop in value compared to the same car in 2002-2004.
www.kansascityautomuseum.com
Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4 Guards Red
1987 951 Guards Red

2006 955S Arctic Silver
2006 955S Lapis Blue
Gone but not forgotten: 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red

pcasanova
NG (Second 100 Outposters!)
Posts: 23
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 5:22 am
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: Help with potential purchase

Post by pcasanova » Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:12 am

All of this info was priceless. Thanks everyone.

Checked out car yesterday. Walked away.

Things that could be seen and heard, do place this car in the low 20's.

Below where my findings, before a PPI.

Front bumper mis-aligned (had upgraded front bumper).
* Possibly due to current owner removing to clean radiators or accident, who knows.
Front Headlights do look new, agree could be due to accident.
Paint all messed up, even for a "driver".
* scratches
* chips that have removed clear coat on hood and other sections
* chips throughout the car
* bubbles under paint on fenders
* rear quarter panel looks like sun cracked paint then was sealed with years of wax
BOTH rear lights where cracked
Clunk noise coming from front driver side suspension
Windows at times made grinding noises (going to need regulators soon)
Sunroof got stuck half way when closing, but was able to close
Passenger seat, rear portion would not go up or down, just made grinding noise
Bunch of other misc things throughout the interior

The main reason I walked away. Car is fast, but does not pin you to the seat like other 911 Turbo's I have been in. Power was "smooth" between 3K - 6.5K RPMs. I was expecting a sudden Power Boost when turbo's kicked in. Something just did not "feel" right with drive train.

User avatar
b3freak
OG (First 100 Outposters!)
Posts: 902
Joined: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:46 am
Location: Gawga DAWG Country

Re: Help with potential purchase

Post by b3freak » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:33 am

I see the seller says the car is in "excellent" condition. Just proves those claims are relative huh? I never believe them! Glad you're patient even when the deal seems to good to be true. I'm not sure I'd want a car like this in tiptronic, but I guess that's where the Turbo technology is going..most all of the new Turbos are auto-manual w/ paddle shifters ... no proper manual. (sniffle) Fortunately, Porsche still knows their buyers want true manual and have put it in their other cars.

Keep the search alive and post back with pics. All the best!
2002 Porsche 996 Carrera - bare bones basic, but still a blast to drive! Heck, I don't even have PSM on it. Ha!

pcasanova
NG (Second 100 Outposters!)
Posts: 23
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 5:22 am
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: Help with potential purchase

Post by pcasanova » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:24 am

Will do.

This one looked like a good deal too, but a couple of days too late.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... lCode1=911

User avatar
32wildbilly
OG (First 100 Outposters!)
Posts: 1278
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:46 pm
Location: Kneebraska

Re: Help with potential purchase

Post by 32wildbilly » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:57 am

pcasanova wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:12 am
All of this info was priceless. Thanks everyone.

Checked out car yesterday. Walked away.

Things that could be seen and heard, do place this car in the low 20's.

Below where my findings, before a PPI.


The main reason I walked away. Car is fast, but does not pin you to the seat like other 911 Turbo's I have been in. Power was "smooth" between 3K - 6.5K RPMs. I was expecting a sudden Power Boost when turbo's kicked in. Something just did not "feel" right with drive train.
Don't just walk...
1ed4b9d2d719571364a79e69147f45ff--monty-python-star-wars.jpg

User avatar
FRUNKenstein
OG (First 100 Outposters!)
Posts: 1156
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:02 pm
Location: Overland Park, KS
Contact:

Re: Help with potential purchase

Post by FRUNKenstein » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:18 am

Unfortunately, for a low-$30ks car, most of those blemishes are pretty normal. You won't find a pristine car with a price starting with a 3. I think a car that might turn into a great buy is Bill's seal gray car that is currently on BaT. It doesn't seem to be drawing much attention. I think it may end up in the high $30k range, which would be a great deal. It was at $20,996 still last night, and I think ends today or maybe tomorrow.

The price is irrelevant until the last 5 minutes of the auction, but you can get a feel based on number of bids and comments. I think he made a mistake in using pics without the center caps on the wheels.

Probably the best take-away for you, based on your comments, is that you won't be happy with a tippy. There's nothing wrong with a tippy, but if you want raw speed, a tippy will leave you underwhelmed. A tippy is still a fast car, but in a more civilized manner.
www.kansascityautomuseum.com
Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4 Guards Red
1987 951 Guards Red

2006 955S Arctic Silver
2006 955S Lapis Blue
Gone but not forgotten: 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red

User avatar
5chn3ll
Site Admin
Posts: 1232
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:35 pm

Re: Help with potential purchase

Post by 5chn3ll » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:39 am

The '01 Turbo made 415 HP at the crank...so, 370ish to the wheels? That's a decent HP number, but not your-neck's-gonna-hurt-tomorrow. Throw in the Tip - which is a decent transmission, but it's not the transmission best-selling author, serial 996 flipper, and internationally-renowned automotive fashion consultant John Ireland thinks it is*, and I can see that the performance might be underwhelming. 17 years is a long time...front-wheel drive hatchbacks ship with 300HP these days.

That car doesn't look disastrous to me - but it's in rougher shape than my car, and my car is not pristine. Things I'm willing to overlook on my car I'm not sure I'd be willing to overlook for a Turbo. However, a lot of those issues could be resolved with a little bit of money at a decent paint shop, $500 or so to the wheel repair shop, and a shopping spree to update some of the tired interior bits (like those floormats)...$5 to $10K could do a LOT for this car.

pcasanova
NG (Second 100 Outposters!)
Posts: 23
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 5:22 am
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: Help with potential purchase

Post by pcasanova » Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:28 am

All good info, please keep them coming.

As for the issues for any TT in the 30's, I understand that it will be far from perfect. In fact, looking for a driver. This one just seemed a bit more than what I wanted to deal with.

I'm still trying to get educated on these cars because TT is a different beast. i.e. Higher milage is not terrible on these engines. But being a 15+ yr old car, have to keep in mind that power has diminished.

Did see the car on BaT, also saw this one did not meet reserves https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003- ... urbo-23-2/ X50 option is nice. ;)

For now, will be keeping an eye on the market to see what pops. My car is scheduled to go in for major service and will then be putting it on the market soon.

Post Reply