So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
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So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
I know it’s not unusual for an amateur mechanic to change a clutch. But, at 57 years of age, I’ve never done it. I’ve paid for new clutches in the ‘87 944 Turbo and the ‘87 X1/9 in the past couple of years. The ‘73 914’s clutch has had a chatter since I got it, and after a daylong drive a few weeks ago, I decided it’s time to swap it out.
I ordered a tall transmission lift rated at 1,100 pounds off eBay for $230 with shipping. It arrives this week.
I ordered an 18-piece clutch kit from one of the 914 aftermarket parts specialist - www.autoatlanta.com. It includes a new flywheel (914 flywheels don’t refinish well, apparently) and a whole bunch of other seals and clips and washers and bits that are best to replace WYAIT. And a booklet on how to change a 914 clutch. That was about $867 with shipping. It arrives this week also.
There are good DIY guides for 914 clutch replacement online, also. I’ve got a decent set of tools, and a 4-post lift. My son, max$wag, who is a senior in college studying mechanical engineering, will be home from college on December 16th. I told him I’d wait for him to get here before starting the job. I figure it will be good experience for him, plus good help when I run into the inevitable unanticipated problem. I’ll keep this thread updated with thoughts, lessons learned and progress.
Here’s the victim, er, uh, patient:
I ordered a tall transmission lift rated at 1,100 pounds off eBay for $230 with shipping. It arrives this week.
I ordered an 18-piece clutch kit from one of the 914 aftermarket parts specialist - www.autoatlanta.com. It includes a new flywheel (914 flywheels don’t refinish well, apparently) and a whole bunch of other seals and clips and washers and bits that are best to replace WYAIT. And a booklet on how to change a 914 clutch. That was about $867 with shipping. It arrives this week also.
There are good DIY guides for 914 clutch replacement online, also. I’ve got a decent set of tools, and a 4-post lift. My son, max$wag, who is a senior in college studying mechanical engineering, will be home from college on December 16th. I told him I’d wait for him to get here before starting the job. I figure it will be good experience for him, plus good help when I run into the inevitable unanticipated problem. I’ll keep this thread updated with thoughts, lessons learned and progress.
Here’s the victim, er, uh, patient:
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Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red
2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver
Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red
2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver
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Re: So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
Here’s the transmission lift:
Here’s the clutch kit:
Here’s the clutch kit:
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Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red
2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver
Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red
2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver
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Re: So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
How does that work in a 914? Do you drop the engine or the transaxle assembly? I've never messed with a mid-engine car.
FRUNKenstein wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:33 pm I know it’s not unusual for an amateur mechanic to change a clutch. But, at 57 years of age, I’ve never done it. I’ve paid for new clutches in the ‘87 944 Turbo and the ‘87 X1/9 in the past couple of years. The ‘73 914’s clutch has had a chatter since I got it, and after a daylong drive a few weeks ago, I decided it’s time to swap it out.
I ordered a tall transmission lift rated at 1,100 pounds off eBay for $230 with shipping. It arrives this week.
I ordered an 18-piece clutch kit from one of the 914 aftermarket parts specialist - www.autoatlanta.com. It includes a new flywheel (914 flywheels don’t refinish well, apparently) and a whole bunch of other bushings and washers and bits that are best to replace WYAIT. And a booklet on how to change a 914 clutch. That was about $867 with shipping. It arrives this week also.
There are good DIY guides for 914 clutch replacement online, also. I’ve got a decent set of tools, and a 4-post lift. My son, max$wag, who is a senior in college studying mechanical engineering, will be home from college on December 16th. I told him I’d wait for him to get here before starting the job. I figure it will be good experience for him, plus good help when I run into the inevitable unanticipated problem. I’ll keep this thread updated with thoughts, lessons learned and progress.
Here’s the victim, er, uh, patient:
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Re: So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
I would be happy to act as the event photographer to capture the carnage for future generations to learn from. ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
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Re: So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
Apparently, some guys drop the entire assembly and then split the tranny from the engine when it’s out. That way you can access the engine for cleaning and other services. But, to do the clutch, all you really need is to drop the tranny. That’s my plan.32wildbilly wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:41 pm How does that work in a 914? Do you drop the engine or the transaxle assembly? I've never messed with a mid-engine car.
www.kansascityautomuseum.com
Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red
2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver
Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red
2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver
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Re: So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
Absolutely! Might be fun to get Fred to organize a tech session in my garage. As long as we stay in the garage, my wife should be fine with it.Einsteiger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:43 pm I would be happy to act as the event photographer to capture the carnage for future generations to learn from.![]()
www.kansascityautomuseum.com
Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red
2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver
Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red
2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver
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Re: So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
Just be careful and pics would be appreciated if the "clutch party" does take place.
FRUNKenstein wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:12 pmApparently, some guys drop the entire assembly and then split the tranny from the engine when it’s out. That way you can access the engine for cleaning and other services. But, to do the clutch, all you really need is to drop the tranny. That’s my plan.32wildbilly wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:41 pm How does that work in a 914? Do you drop the engine or the transaxle assembly? I've never messed with a mid-engine car.
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Re: So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
If the 914's engine/transmission layout is anything like a Beetle's, it should be a fairly straightforward job with only a modest use of "colorful" language. (The diagrams on AutoAtlanta appear to show a four-bolt connection of the engine to the transaxle, identical to my old Beetle's layout.)
Before you start, take a look at the condition of the rubber seals that (attempt to) close off the gaps between the engine/transmission compartment and the rest of the bodywork. If they're in bad shape (dry, brittle, already torn, etc.) you'll want to replace them when reinstalling things. You'll need them on hand before you start -- they're not a stock item at your local AutoZone.
Before you start, take a look at the condition of the rubber seals that (attempt to) close off the gaps between the engine/transmission compartment and the rest of the bodywork. If they're in bad shape (dry, brittle, already torn, etc.) you'll want to replace them when reinstalling things. You'll need them on hand before you start -- they're not a stock item at your local AutoZone.
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Re: So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
I'm just here for the pics
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Re: So, I’m Gonna Try to Change a Clutch . . .
Will do - I’ve already got the car on the lift so it should be easy to take a look.02TX996Cab wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:59 am If the 914's engine/transmission layout is anything like a Beetle's, it should be a fairly straightforward job with only a modest use of "colorful" language. (The diagrams on AutoAtlanta appear to show a four-bolt connection of the engine to the transaxle, identical to my old Beetle's layout.)
Before you start, take a look at the condition of the rubber seals that (attempt to) close off the gaps between the engine/transmission compartment and the rest of the bodywork. If they're in bad shape (dry, brittle, already torn, etc.) you'll want to replace them when reinstalling things. You'll need them on hand before you start -- they're not a stock item at your local AutoZone.
www.kansascityautomuseum.com
Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red
2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver
Current:
2002 996TT X50, Guards Red
1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red
2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver