My 2017 Cherokee WANTS me to get rid of it...

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Re: My 2017 Cherokee WANTS me to get rid of it...

Post by gnat » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:08 pm

Buy a Cayenne and replace the Porsche logo with a Jeep logo?

Sometimes people just need to be tricked ;)

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Re: My 2017 Cherokee WANTS me to get rid of it...

Post by 5chn3ll » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:10 pm

We kicked around the idea of a Porsche, and we checked out a few Audis and VWs.

The underlying dilemma is the guarantee that it's going to get beat up and kicked around on a regular basis. I specifically went with the Cherokee because we wanted an affordable vehicle to beat on without feeling guilty. It may not have any oomph to spare, but finding a mid-size 4x4 SUV that weighs less than 2 tons is damn near impossible. I don't remember the makes/models, but we saw a couple of rigs that don't make appreciably more power than the Cheroke that were closing in on 2.5-3 tons. Our old X5 diesel was useless off-road because gravity...

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Oversteer: You will hit the wall with the rear end.
Horsepower: How hard you will hit the wall.
Torque: How far you will move the wall.

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Re: My 2017 Cherokee WANTS me to get rid of it...

Post by 32wildbilly » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:30 pm

gnat wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:08 pm
Buy a Cayenne and replace the Porsche logo with a Jeep logo?

Sometimes people just need to be tricked ;)
Yeah but the Jeep probably won't keep your key if the battery is dead! In fact it probably has a push button start so the key device stays in one's pocket.
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Re: My 2017 Cherokee WANTS me to get rid of it...

Post by 5chn3ll » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:26 am

Maybe I can just stick some Abarth badges on it...
gnat wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:08 pm
Buy a Cayenne and replace the Porsche logo with a Jeep logo?

Sometimes people just need to be tricked ;)

Understeer: You will hit the wall with the front end.
Oversteer: You will hit the wall with the rear end.
Horsepower: How hard you will hit the wall.
Torque: How far you will move the wall.

"Reading tire date codes is for p*****s."
-P. Walker


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Re: My 2017 Cherokee WANTS me to get rid of it...

Post by 5chn3ll » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:16 pm

If you haven't, watch AvE's teardown of the same angle-of-attack hardware Boeing decided was robust enough to not need redundancy (unless you are willing to pay more...). The guy - who calls himself "bumblefuck" - is awesome.

32wildbilly wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:57 pm
This is starting to sound like the Boeing 737 Max issue!


Seems pretty clear that FAA inspectors are REALLY impressed by machined metal cases.

Understeer: You will hit the wall with the front end.
Oversteer: You will hit the wall with the rear end.
Horsepower: How hard you will hit the wall.
Torque: How far you will move the wall.

"Reading tire date codes is for p*****s."
-P. Walker


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Re: My 2017 Cherokee WANTS me to get rid of it...

Post by 32wildbilly » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:26 pm

5chn3ll wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:16 pm
If you haven't, watch AvE's teardown of the same angle-of-attack hardware Boeing decided was robust enough to not need redundancy (unless you are willing to pay more...). The guy - who calls himself "bumblefuck" - is awesome.

32wildbilly wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:57 pm
This is starting to sound like the Boeing 737 Max issue!
Seems pretty clear that FAA inspectors are REALLY impressed by machined metal cases.
Love that guy and that is some scary shit! Brother in law is a retired engineer from Boeing. While not the Max he left just before Boeing started putting the DreamLiner into production and he only raises his eyebrows and smiles when I ask him about the plane! For him that is not a good sign. Years ago when flying back from NY on a fairly new 757 I was astonished at how tail happy that plane was. I flew quite bit for business and knew airplanes. It was unsettling. Airbus scares the shit out of me and I have no use for the MD80(noisy bitches). Maybe I should just quit flying!
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Re: My 2017 Cherokee WANTS me to get rid of it...

Post by 5chn3ll » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:17 am

My brother does software design and QA for Boeing (he writes and tests code for ancient avionics - nothing to do with the MAX), and he isn't saying boo. I suspect there have been internal management-led discussions about how being discreet and remaining employed aren't all that different.

Understeer: You will hit the wall with the front end.
Oversteer: You will hit the wall with the rear end.
Horsepower: How hard you will hit the wall.
Torque: How far you will move the wall.

"Reading tire date codes is for p*****s."
-P. Walker


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