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[DTMiller]

Taycan Turbo(?!?!) S

[gnat]

Taycan Turbo(?!?!) S

Holy Shit. 0-100kph in 2.8s??? They can call it whatever they want





Still not buying an EV though.

[OceanBlue2000]

Taycan Turbo(?!?!) S

I saw this on Jalopnik when this was announced. They are calling it a Turbo despite the lack of, you know, actual turbos. "Turbo" in Porsche parlance now means "the faster one." I'd think this is out of character for those disciplined Germans, but what do I know.

[Kalashnikov]

Saw the Tycan pricing today... Hmm.

Out of all consumer goods, cars is the only product that stubbornly defied the pricing trend. Computers, TVs, appliances, consumer goods have all gotten cheaper as they got more powerful and more advanced. Bare bones $100 laptop is far more powerful then the top of the line $2,500+ PC from 30 years ago, yet priced laughably cheap.

If cars followed the trend in electronics, we should be able to buy a 911/m5/amg cars today at fractions of what their progenitors cost. Yet, no cigar.

[5chn3ll]

What can't be helping: all of the mandated/homologated stuff (driver aids, data recorders, lane departure/brake assist radars), plus all of the technology used in lieu of hardware (active brake differential / ABS instead of a locker/limited-slip diff), plus all of the infotainment B.S.

[gnat]

Saw the Tycan pricing today... Hmm.

Out of all consumer goods, cars is the only product that stubbornly defied the pricing trend. Computers, TVs, appliances, consumer goods have all gotten cheaper as they got more powerful and more advanced. Bare bones $100 laptop is far more powerful then the top of the line $2,500+ PC from 30 years ago, yet priced laughably cheap.

If cars followed the trend in electronics, we should be able to buy a 911/m5/amg cars today at fractions of what their progenitors cost. Yet, no cigar.

Bunch of greedy bastards.

There is some justification for it to cover the process of getting through various regulations and certifications, as well as R&D costs. Also consider that computers are made mostly of commodity parts with few custom parts. They also need to operate in a far more hospitable environment than a car needs to.

If you look at specialized computers (e.g. capable of operating in extreme temps, in the presence of flammable fluids and fumes, etc..) you'll find they are much more expensive than the average home computer.

Additionally, if you want a cutting edge computer with all the latest bells and whistles, that will run you far more than a no name laptop that is made up of 4+ year old tech.

All that said, I don't see how you can really justify $2500 for a single head light housing (without any of the electronic bits). It's just molded plastic. While I grant you that it's not just your every day plastic so that it is more impact resistant, it is still rather cheap to produce.

Given that it is so difficult to get a viable mass produced car company up and running (just look at all the issues Tesla has had with their supply and assembly lines not to mention the red tape they fought through in the beginning) I'm not sure how we force them to bring prices down to something more reasonable.

[Dr_Strangelove]

Considering the Model S is $100,000 and no two are built with the same amount of fasteners - $150k for a base Taycan Tuh-bow is a steal because it'll actually feel like a premium product. Let's all hope it has a "blow up" problem and maybe I'll own one in 2036

[5chn3ll]

Heh - your comment about Tesla fasteners perfectly explains my reluctance to own a Tesla. I walked around a newer S recently...I swear I'm not one of those micrometer-toting people who will tsk-tsk when there's a millimeter difference, but I am curious what new unit of measure was invented to calculate and record their assembly tolerances.

I think I'd enjoy having a beer with Musk, just to hear the stream of consciousness...but I'ma hold off a bit longer buying one of his cars.

[Dr_Strangelove]

When I heard they were rush-producing the Model 3 in parking lot tents in order to meet the goal of 5,000 units per week; that was my immediate thought: "I've seen the cars they take their time on - I can't imagine what these 3's are going to look like..."

[32wildbilly]

...and there's always that chance that your recently purchased Tesla will go all torch boy on your ass!