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Ok fair enough. My point is there has got to be somebody coordinating the staging of these waiting ships and that group should know where all this stuff is strung across the ocean floor. One would think this coordinating group would say "don't park and drop anchor here because there are pipelines, communication lines, sanitary lines, etc in this area."

This is between the Cali coast and Santa Catalina island for Christ sakes. There has got to be a a crap ton of stuff strung across there. Have they just been lucky or what?

gnat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:18 pm On ships of that size, holding outside of port is the only time the anchor really gets used. They use the anchor to hold themselves in place rather than having to have someone constantly adjust the engines. Lessens the fuel cost and the stress on the engines and crew.

As far as knowing they snagged something, that's kinda the point. Otherwise the boat will just drag it along the bottom.

As far as knowing where the pipe is, dunno. There is a lot of info like that which isn't shared, so it's possible that the ships had no idea.

I have worked on cargo ships. Not everyone on a cargo ship gives a damn about what is happening. Dragging anchors over pipelines is actually more common than you would think. It is very unusual for a cargo ship to anchor, most captains probably have never anchored because the ships are programmed from port to port for max efficiency.
Most of the officers on these cargo ships are Eastern European and most of the ratings are from Southeast Asia. English is not their primary language. There is a requirement to speak a minimum amount of English for officers, not for ratings. The hours are long and the pay is shite. It's easy to miss the symbols for pipelines on the charts, or just not to care.

Environmental watchdog group SkyTruth said satellite imagery from Oct. 1, the day before the spill was reported, shows cargo ships anchored near the area where the pipeline runs, according to government maps. The closest, however, was about 450 meters away from the pipeline, SkyTruth President John Amos said.

450 meters sounds like a lot, but some of those container ships are >350M long...

The latest stuff I'm reading indicates that the holed part of the pipeline was dragged over 100 feet from where it was supposed to be.

Somebody fucked up.

32wildbilly wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:37 pm I don't know much about container ships but do they use the anchor to stop themselves rather than reversing the engines? How the hell can you run over your own anchor!!??

Got my work assignments for the Festival of Speed at the end of the month. This is the final CFOS @ Auto Club Speedway in Fontana...the big track is being demolished and replaced with a short oval.

Saturday - Track Tours / Grid Girl
9:30 a.m. - 1:30 p.m.

Sunday - Grid
7:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.
12:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

I look forward to flagging Cuda for many, many imagined safety violations.

5chn3ll wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:07 am Saturday - Track Tours / Grid Girl
9:30 a.m. - 1:30 p.m.

Wait. What???

5chn3ll wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:14 am 450 meters sounds like a lot, but some of those container ships are >350M long...

Anchors also aren't straight down from where you see the ship. Depending on the wind and current there can be a lot of line in the water. So depending on the depth and the conditions, 450m is plausible.

5chn3ll wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:07 am
Saturday - Grid Girl
9:30 a.m. - 1:30 p.m.

Someone been working on dat lockdown body. Congrats man

These are grid girls(before F1 cancelled them): 5chn3ll...ain't no way...lockdown body or not!

Dr_Strangelove (whew!) wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:58 am

5chn3ll wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:07 am
Saturday - Grid Girl
9:30 a.m. - 1:30 p.m.

Someone been working on dat lockdown body. Congrats man

32wildbilly wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:13 pm These are grid girls(before F1 cancelled them):
grid-girls-gty-1-ml-180201_4x3_992.jpeg

5chn3ll...ain't no way...lockdown body or not!

It's California, they are being inclusive

This conversation makes me uncomfortable.