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First traffic stop with a dashcam...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:04 am
by 5chn3ll
For the first time since I got the 996, I was lit up by a motor officer for not having a front plate.

Background: I live in La Mesa, a small city in San Diego county. Since we are incorporated, we have our own police force and fire department (most of San Diego County is served by SDPD or the SD Sheriff). Our cops are usually very friendly, but they tend to have a bit of "big fish/small pond" mentality. Regardless of how stupid I think your "I'm the LAW!" bravado might be, you're the law...so I'ma shut up and be respectful when I get pulled over.

The initial part of the conversation was typical "gruff cop" - asking to see the license, asking why there's no front plate (didn't come with one), asked how long I've had the car (nearly 6 years), tried to trick me into a lie (are personalized plates? Then you got 2, didn't you? Where's the other one?). I was respectful and pleasant with every answer, but the guy was absolutely waving his dick around unnecessarily.

While he was waiting for dispatch to tell him whether or not I was a known murderer, he noticed my detector chirping (not illegal in CA as long as they are not attached to the windshield) and gruffly asked it it had picked them up on the median (of course it did - you've been sitting there blasting KA the entire time I was in 7-11...). While he was ogling the detector, the dashcam next to it caught his eye...and that's the weird bit.

His demeanor IMMEDIATELY changed - he went from being gruff/overbearing to friendly and talkative. The subtle interrogation immediately ended. He handed my license back and (quite literally) suggested that I "I might want to look into acquiring a front plate," walked back to his bike, and rode off.

It's entirely possible that I'm imagining or exaggerating the effect the camera had on this traffic stop - but I'll be installing a dashcam in Mrs. Schnell's Cherokee just the same.

Any of you all experienced before/after traffic stops with dashcams? I'm curious if this is my imagination or a legit phenomena.

Re: First traffic stop with a dashcam...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:12 am
by 32wildbilly
For GOD's sake just get a front plate!!! A proper mount does not the 996 hideous and you won't have to deal with Deputy Dawg unless you do something really wrong.

That is interesting about the dash cam attitude change. Or maybe he just realized you were a nice guy...NAW must have been the cam.

Re: First traffic stop with a dashcam...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:17 am
by 5chn3ll
Nope. I haven't had a front plate on any of my cars since 2000, and I'm not gonna start drilling now. :D

I should work up a "sovereign citizen" line to use on him next time - I bet he'd LOVE that.

Re: First traffic stop with a dashcam...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:28 am
by gnat
5chn3ll wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:17 am Nope. I haven't had a front plate on any of my cars since 2000, and I'm not gonna start drilling now. :D
Heh. I think that was about when we stopped mounting our plates too. I think we've had maybe 4 tickets for it since then and it's always been by dick cops that either just want to hassle someone or realize that they weren't going to make the ticket they were going to write stick.

And yes putting the front plate on a 996 (or 958 or XK8) does totally make it ugly.

Re: First traffic stop with a dashcam...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:31 am
by 32wildbilly
gnat wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:28 am
5chn3ll wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:17 am Nope. I haven't had a front plate on any of my cars since 2000, and I'm not gonna start drilling now. :D
Heh. I think that was about when we stopped mounting our plates too. I think we've had maybe 4 tickets for it since then and it's always been by dick cops that either just want to hassle someone or realize that they weren't going to make the ticket they were going to write stick.

And yes putting the front plate on a 996 (or 958 or XK8) does totally make it ugly.
Hey it's a law! You must not love your state! You should leave and go back from where you came. :roll:
5chn3ll wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:17 am Nope. I haven't had a front plate on any of my cars since 2000, and I'm not gonna start drilling now. :D

I should work up a "sovereign citizen" line to use on him next time - I bet he'd LOVE that.

I know a guy who could help you with a proletariat speech...

Re: First traffic stop with a dashcam...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:35 am
by Kalashnikov
Move to AZ, we don't have front plates.

Re: First traffic stop with a dashcam...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:00 am
by gnat
Quick statistics for you Billy. Neither Schnelly nor I have front plates. Neither Schnelly nor I have had a major engine problem. Coincidence? I think not! :lol:

You could also view it that we love our states more as we are willing to pay it extra "taxes" from time to time :p

Re: First traffic stop with a dashcam...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:29 am
by 5chn3ll
Yeah, I'ma pass on the AZ thing. There are much quicker and far less painful ways to die.

Re: First traffic stop with a dashcam...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:29 am
by 5chn3ll
Although I'm not above visiting every now and then to "shop" for a new grill...

Re: First traffic stop with a dashcam...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:08 pm
by 32wildbilly
gnat wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:00 am Quick statistics for you Billy. Neither Schnelly nor I have front plates. Neither Schnelly nor I have had a major engine problem. Coincidence? I think not! :lol:

You could also view it that we love our states more as we are willing to pay it extra "taxes" from time to time :p
HHHMMM...you might have a point on the engine. However, since mine is slanted in line with the contour of the bumper cover I get an additional down force at high speeds to keep the front end stuck to the road. So engine damage or down force...tough decision. :lol:

Taxes...it's pretty close:
Total State tax burden per WalletHub 4-2-19

11 California 9.47%
14 Nebraska 9.21% (We got high tax load for a Repub leaning state)
15 West Virginia 9.18% or
38 Virginia 7.80% whichever applies I can't remember