Search For a 914

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Re: Search For a 914

Post by Cuda911 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:11 pm

Good luck with the auction! Looks like a decent car, other than engine swap issue.
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Re: Search For a 914

Post by FRUNKenstein » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:29 am

So, assuming the Ravenna Green car goes nuts on BaT and ends up where I think it's going to end up ($20,000 wouldn't surprise me), then I'm out of the pool.

Side note - Cuda, if you are even remotely interested in selling your blue car, I would put it up on BaT right now. The prices those cars are pulling are ridiculous. Given what I've seen over the last 2 weeks on BaT, your blue car might well bring $25,000.

Anyhow, I'll keep an eye on it, but I'm not going over $18k on that car, and that's assuming I can even talk my wife into going that high. I don't see any chance that $18,000 is going to get that car on BaT. So, that puts me back on the lookout for a car that is solid, but needs a repaint. I ran across this car listed in Facebook Marketplace out in Big Spring, TX (west Texas). It is owned by a used car salesman who traded his personal VW Vanagon for it. He's had it listed for sale for a few months, but listed under "918 Spyder" rather than 914. So, I think it has been flying under the radar. He's asking $6,500. That puts it right in my "paint, interior & mechanical" for about $13k budget ($6,000 purchase price, $4,000 paint, $2,000 interior, $1,000 mechanical). It's a 1974 1.8 liter car. It has fiberglass GT flares, which I kinda like and kinda don't. They appear to be the nice ones that aren't grafted on - they are the entire quarter panel and front fender. You can buy matching rocker panel covers for about $200, which I'd probably do because they don't end abruptly at the bottom that way. The fit looks OK, but maybe a little off at the door handles.

It has been converted to carbs, which I'm not thrilled about, but it isn't a deal killer. He says it is in good running condition and up until the temps got real hot in Texas (no AC on it), he was daily driving it to work. The interior needs rehabbing, but again, I'm planning on that with pretty much any car that's going to need paint.

The 2 big pluses for me are:
1) He says it doesn't have rust. It is a west Texas car, so that's a good environment. If it truly is rust-free, then the $6,500 asking is very reasonable.
2) I see green paint peeking out around the door jamb on the driver's side. I'm disregarding the green on the inside of the sails because it was probably painted along with the "PORSCHE" letters on the engine cover. But, the door jamb green under the flaking white paint is very interesting. The owner i's currently out of town on vacation, but he's going to text me a picture of the paint code plate. If it is Ravenna Green (L65K), then I might buy it even if it has some rust. That would be amazing if it is a Ravenna Green car originally.

It's about a 10 hour drive down there. If the pictures that he's sending me come out looking good, and we can agree on a price, then I'll drive down there with my son and drag it back home. Actually, I'll probably just drop it off at the body shop for the repaint.

I am interested in your thoughts, both good & bad. Here are the pics I have now:

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Re: Search For a 914

Post by 32wildbilly » Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:18 pm

FRUNKenstein wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:29 am So, assuming the Ravenna Green car goes nuts on BaT and ends up where I think it's going to end up ($20,000 wouldn't surprise me), then I'm out of the pool.

Side note - Cuda, if you are even remotely interested in selling your blue car, I would put it up on BaT right now. The prices those cars are pulling are ridiculous. Given what I've seen over the last 2 weeks on BaT, your blue car might well bring $25,000.

Anyhow, I'll keep an eye on it, but I'm not going over $18k on that car, and that's assuming I can even talk my wife into going that high. I don't see any chance that $18,000 is going to get that car on BaT. So, that puts me back on the lookout for a car that is solid, but needs a repaint. I ran across this car listed in Facebook Marketplace out in Big Spring, TX (west Texas). It is owned by a used car salesman who traded his personal VW Vanagon for it. He's had it listed for sale for a few months, but listed under "918 Spyder" rather than 914. So, I think it has been flying under the radar. He's asking $6,500. That puts it right in my "paint, interior & mechanical" for about $13k budget ($6,000 purchase price, $4,000 paint, $2,000 interior, $1,000 mechanical). It's a 1974 1.8 liter car. It has fiberglass GT flares, which I kinda like and kinda don't. They appear to be the nice ones that aren't grafted on - they are the entire quarter panel and front fender. You can buy matching rocker panel covers for about $200, which I'd probably do because they don't end abruptly at the bottom that way. The fit looks OK, but maybe a little off at the door handles.

It has been converted to carbs, which I'm not thrilled about, but it isn't a deal killer. He says it is in good running condition and up until the temps got real hot in Texas (no AC on it), he was daily driving it to work. The interior needs rehabbing, but again, I'm planning on that with pretty much any car that's going to need paint.

The 2 big pluses for me are:
1) He says it doesn't have rust. It is a west Texas car, so that's a good environment. If it truly is rust-free, then the $6,500 asking is very reasonable.
2) I see green paint peeking out around the door jamb on the driver's side. I'm disregarding the green on the inside of the sails because it was probably painted along with the "PORSCHE" letters on the engine cover. But, the door jamb green under the flaking white paint is very interesting. The owner i's currently out of town on vacation, but he's going to text me a picture of the paint code plate. If it is Ravenna Green (L65K), then I might buy it even if it has some rust. That would be amazing if it is a Ravenna Green car originally.

It's about a 10 hour drive down there. If the pictures that he's sending me come out looking good, and we can agree on a price, then I'll drive down there with my son and drag it back home. Actually, I'll probably just drop it off at the body shop for the repaint.

I am interested in your thoughts, both good & bad. Here are the pics I have now:
I'm not Cuda and didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I don't care for the GT flares. They just don't look right on the car.
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Re: Search For a 914

Post by gnat » Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:45 pm

32wildbilly wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:18 pm
FRUNKenstein wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:29 am So, assuming the Ravenna Green car goes nuts on BaT and ends up where I think it's going to end up ($20,000 wouldn't surprise me), then I'm out of the pool.

Side note - Cuda, if you are even remotely interested in selling your blue car, I would put it up on BaT right now. The prices those cars are pulling are ridiculous. Given what I've seen over the last 2 weeks on BaT, your blue car might well bring $25,000.

Anyhow, I'll keep an eye on it, but I'm not going over $18k on that car, and that's assuming I can even talk my wife into going that high. I don't see any chance that $18,000 is going to get that car on BaT. So, that puts me back on the lookout for a car that is solid, but needs a repaint. I ran across this car listed in Facebook Marketplace out in Big Spring, TX (west Texas). It is owned by a used car salesman who traded his personal VW Vanagon for it. He's had it listed for sale for a few months, but listed under "918 Spyder" rather than 914. So, I think it has been flying under the radar. He's asking $6,500. That puts it right in my "paint, interior & mechanical" for about $13k budget ($6,000 purchase price, $4,000 paint, $2,000 interior, $1,000 mechanical). It's a 1974 1.8 liter car. It has fiberglass GT flares, which I kinda like and kinda don't. They appear to be the nice ones that aren't grafted on - they are the entire quarter panel and front fender. You can buy matching rocker panel covers for about $200, which I'd probably do because they don't end abruptly at the bottom that way. The fit looks OK, but maybe a little off at the door handles.

It has been converted to carbs, which I'm not thrilled about, but it isn't a deal killer. He says it is in good running condition and up until the temps got real hot in Texas (no AC on it), he was daily driving it to work. The interior needs rehabbing, but again, I'm planning on that with pretty much any car that's going to need paint.

The 2 big pluses for me are:
1) He says it doesn't have rust. It is a west Texas car, so that's a good environment. If it truly is rust-free, then the $6,500 asking is very reasonable.
2) I see green paint peeking out around the door jamb on the driver's side. I'm disregarding the green on the inside of the sails because it was probably painted along with the "PORSCHE" letters on the engine cover. But, the door jamb green under the flaking white paint is very interesting. The owner i's currently out of town on vacation, but he's going to text me a picture of the paint code plate. If it is Ravenna Green (L65K), then I might buy it even if it has some rust. That would be amazing if it is a Ravenna Green car originally.

It's about a 10 hour drive down there. If the pictures that he's sending me come out looking good, and we can agree on a price, then I'll drive down there with my son and drag it back home. Actually, I'll probably just drop it off at the body shop for the repaint.

I am interested in your thoughts, both good & bad. Here are the pics I have now:
I'm not Cuda and didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I don't care for the GT flares. They just don't look right on the car.
They'd look better if it had wheels that filled it out. As it stands it looks half assed and like it should have a fart can hanging out the back...

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Re: Search For a 914

Post by FRUNKenstein » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:45 pm

Oh, I agree on the GT flares. As is, they look stupid. You have to convert to 5-lug hubs and then stuff some 7 and 8 inch wide Fuchs in them. Then it looks like this:


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Personally, I'm fine with the non-flared fenders. I don't have a big preference. But, if you get the flares, you got to fill them out.
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Re: Search For a 914

Post by Cuda911 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:01 pm

I'm not a big fan of fender flares either, but many do like them. It's a popular mod. Most want metal flares. I find that the flares also often cause weak areas where the paint cracks. The carper, dash, and seats on this car are thrashed, after-market steering wheel, crap paint job. Windshield wipers and antenna are missing. Rubber moldings throughout are shot. Speakers have been ripped out crudely, wrong shift knob. Missing front "warts." Looks like the headlight grille is broken. Converted to carbs. Not sure if those are real Fuchs ( I doubt it). Not sure I believe "no rust." Would need to see many more, and better, pix. Worth checking out further though, if you can get it cheap enough and don't mind a flared and carbed car.
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Re: Search For a 914

Post by FRUNKenstein » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:19 pm

Visiting my mom today, and my uncle stopped by. I forgot that his son, my cousin, lives in Midland, Texas, about 45 minutes from where this car is. He's a petroleum engineer and is currently furloughed. We called him and he's " Heck, yeah, I'll drive over to Big Spring and look at it - I'm bored right now and looking for something to do."

I also visited the body shop where the X1/9 is getting painted. I visited with the guy doing the body work and showed him the project car in Texas and the Ravenna green on BaT. He's up for the challenge. He's getting a kick out of doing the X1/9 - apparently it's the talk of the town in the little town where my family lives and I grew up.

So, the plan is to get pics from the seller tomorrow. If they look OK (mainly looking at rust - we know it's a project car), then my cousin will drive over to see it in person. If it passes muster, then I'll make an offer. If he accepts, then I'll drive down next weekend and trailer it home. I will drop the engine at home and haul the body down to my hometown body shop for him to do his magic. While he's doing that, I'll clean up the engine, and maybe send it out for some massaging.

Oh, and I just have to get my wife to buy into the plan . . .

Pics from the body shop visit today:

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Current:
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1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red

2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
1988 BMW 325i Cabriolet, Alpin Weiss
1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
Gone but not forgotten: 1975 914 2.0, Laguna Blue; 1999 996 C4 Aerokit Black; 1990 964 C2 Guards Red; 2006 955S Arctic Silver

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Re: Search For a 914

Post by 32wildbilly » Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:44 pm

BAT: Jul 19 at 5:19 PM $15,500 bid placed by eatonhong

Frunk you out?
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Re: Search For a 914

Post by FRUNKenstein » Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:08 pm

32wildbilly wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:44 pm BAT: Jul 19 at 5:19 PM $15,500 bid placed by eatonhong

Frunk you out?
Maybe. We had The Great Car Show at the National WWI museum today. Parked right across from me was this 1975 Laguna Blue 2.0. Owner currently has a phenomenal Jag XKE in our museum. Known guy, takes great car of his cars. Has a “for sale” sign in the window, asking $11,900. I have an appointment with him to see the car at 9:00 am.


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I don’t care for the wheels. I don’t know if he has rocker panel covers for it, but that’s a minor detail. It was good to be able to check out the longs.
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Current:
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1987 928S4, Guards Red
1987 951, Guards Red
1973 914 2.0 Bahia Red

2006 955S, Lapis Blue
Other toys:
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1987 Bertone X1/9, Verde Chiaro
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Re: Search For a 914

Post by Cuda911 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:55 pm

Personally, I'd avoid 75 and 76. Ugly heavy bumpers ( I think 70 lb each) , smog equipment. Even so, at 11k looks like a good buy!
Mike

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